What is your least defensible automotive prejudice?

"Bryan doesn't drive a 1M" (bryantakespictures)
09/13/2016 at 17:58 • Filed to: None

Mine is that I just don’t like superchargers. I like turbos, and horsepower in general, but superchargers just don’t do it for me.

DISCUSSION (59)

dogisbadob > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:04

I am kinda anti-pushrod engine, as high hp/L NA is cool to me. Also, I think silver is a boring color

And in manual transmissions, R should always be up and to the left

C62030 > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:05

The Porsche Carrera GT. I think it is stupid, hideously ugly, overpriced, and completely defeats the purpose of driving for fun by replacing fun with difficulty and clutch smoke.

atfsgeoff > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:06

Man I hate alternators too. I’ve had to replace the alternator on almost every vehicle I’ve owned.

Kinja'd!!!

HammerheadFistpunch > dogisbadob
09/13/2016 at 18:06

but...silver is a boring color.

Alfalfa > atfsgeoff
09/13/2016 at 18:08

+50 stars for Firefly gif

WilliamsSW > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:10

Mine is the reverse of yours - I don't like turbos. I had a bad experience 25 years ago with a Sunbird convertible that I bought new - 4 turbos and 1 head gasket in 50k miles before I unloaded that crapcan. That, and turbo lag, have kept me out of turbocharged cars ever since - N/A was a specific requirement when I got my last car, which really limited me. And yes - I realize that technology and reliability have improved greatly, but I still have that mental block.

Scary__goongala! > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:10

I’ll take RWD with winter tires any day over FWD with winter tires.

I’m not really sure if that fits the question but I’d much rather have RWD in the snow.

HammerheadFistpunch > WilliamsSW
09/13/2016 at 18:12

Im also pro supercharger and ...not anti-turbo...but certainly turbo averse.

I Will Always Be The Honey Badger > dogisbadob
09/13/2016 at 18:12

(Pushrods Hp/L NA)=False

WilliamsSW > Scary__goongala!
09/13/2016 at 18:13

Well, as long as you’re not stuck, RWD in the snow is way more fun!

HammerheadFistpunch > Scary__goongala!
09/13/2016 at 18:13

That position is somewhat defensible...yet strange.

Steve in Manhattan > C62030
09/13/2016 at 18:13

I’d agree - these aggravate me in that they’re cars that even trained racing drivers have difficulty controlling (cf. Paul Walker). If I had to pick one thing that aggravates me the most and is least defensible? Probably non-stock wheels and tires that fuck up the handling and grind up the differential.

WilliamsSW > HammerheadFistpunch
09/13/2016 at 18:16

Yeah, turbo-averse is a good way to describe me, also. But my wife's car has BMW's 3.0 twin turbo in it, and that is one sweet drive train - if it holds up, anyways. Jury is still out on that.

Scary__goongala! > HammerheadFistpunch
09/13/2016 at 18:16

I just feel like in a hairy situation(like unwanted sliding) I can control the car better. At least in my car I feel that way.

HammerheadFistpunch > WilliamsSW
09/13/2016 at 18:21

The problem I have is that no matter how well designed a turbo system is, at my elevation they just aren’t linear enough for my tastes.

Saracen > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:22

I hate Lexus, except for the LF-A, which I want more than pretty much any other supercar except the F40.

Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:31

Audi because I can only see them as Volkswagens.

Frenchlicker > Scary__goongala!
09/13/2016 at 18:34

Until two years ago I would have been on your side. Right until I survived the winter in a Ford Taurus and it did amazingly well

duurtlang > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:39

American cars. I’m sorry, but I just cannot. Just no.

Hardly defensible, I know.

AkursedX > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:45

I don’t like air-cooled 911's. They’re slow (except the turbo versions) sound like sewing machines and have the engine in a terrible spot.

And I have driven them. Steerings nice, but the insane cost of them is not equal to the amount of driving pleasure.

Katsumoto > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:46

I dont get the whole rolling coal thing.

Its basically ricing a diesel truck to me. I have no issue with the owner being able to do whatever they wish, its their car.

Go ahead and add a tuner, intake exhaust to your diesel. I did for mpg boost. But dont sit at a light and try to pour smoke out of the exhaust because my truck puffed a tiny little bit out.

BTW, my truck only puffs out a tiny little amount, less than some of those vapor clouds idiots.

Viggen > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 18:55

I don’t like the FiST/FoST or Hellcat.

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Scary__goongala!
09/13/2016 at 19:06

That’s defensible because drifting

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Viggen
09/13/2016 at 19:09

I’d take the Scat Pack over the Hellcat any day. I do like the FiST, though...

dogisbadob > atfsgeoff
09/13/2016 at 19:17

I HATE when oil leaks on them!

Nonster > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 19:19

hmmm. I have a pretty strong distaste for anything VW, especially the GTI. This was developed before the whole Dieselgate thing so that hasn’t helped.

All things considered the GTI is a great car. Its practical and fun to drive. Part of the issue is that about 5 other young professional engineers I know all bought GTI’s right after we all started our big boy jobs so it comes across as a boring choice to me.

My main problem stems from every VW I’ve ever had contact with has been a colossal pain in the ass to work on. And I’ve had to work on nearly every VW I’ve come into contact with.

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > WilliamsSW
09/13/2016 at 19:21

Funny, a 1987 Sunbird Turbo GT hardtop (bought 10 years and 70k miles after production) was the car that made me love turbos. 4 speed manual, headliner falling down (as every 80s GM inevitably did), and the worlds ugliest dash, with a strange mileage counter mounted in the center console (but no cupholders). I was a teenage idiot in that car, but loved every second of it, and it gave me hardly any trouble for the three years I owned it, until a school teacher in a Geo Storm decided to turn it into a hatchback.

tythegeek > Scary__goongala!
09/13/2016 at 19:25

I drove a little RWD Ranger with studs just in the back, and it was great in the snow, and a heck of a lot of fun. Downshifting and dragging the rears in the snow keeps you straight and is pretty darn entertaining.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 19:26

I hate it when a cars interior has, both brushed aluminum and chrome finishes. Especially when they are right next to each other. I’m looking at you Chevy 2500.

Invinciblejets > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 19:28

I hate old muscle car v8s...

Underpowered shit sounding junk.

tythegeek > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 19:28

I don’t like short-bed pickups, well, unless it’s lowered and fast, then they are okay. But all of these folks driving around quad cab short beds drive me crazy. There is a reason a truck bed and lumber is the same length people. Yes, I know irrational, but nevertheless, how I feel.

jkm7680 > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 19:38

I don’t like the Hellcat, FiST, FoST, Miata or 90% of BMWs and Lexus altogether

TheHondaBro > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 19:47

I don’t like Ford. I just don’t care for the brand.

BJ > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 19:48

I’m not into convertibles.

TheHondaBro > atfsgeoff
09/13/2016 at 19:48

Why even put an alternator on a car if you’ll have to replace it anyway?

/TheRealQuestions

Rico > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 21:00

Mine is weird and a little mean but at least 50% of me believes in it. I feel that the barrier for entry for cars is too low which means there are totally shit cars (either old heaps of junk or more modern but still shitty cars) and totally shit drivers all over the road.

I believe shit cars also lead to bad driving since they can’t handle well people end up driving them very cautiously slowing down for every gradual elevation change or slamming on their brakes for every minor curve in the road which then causes stuff like traffic or accidents.

The shit drivers (I understand they need to get to work and feed their families etc) make it bad for everyone when they are driving under the speed limit, impeding the flow of traffic, turning from center lanes, not signaling etc. If the bar was higher for being allowed to drive it would make the roads safer and driving much easier.

WilliamsSW > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever
09/13/2016 at 21:20

Ha! That’s awesome. Don’t get me wrong, I had a blast in that car. 1990 SE convertible with a turbo and 5 speed. Tons of torque steer- it was great as long as the tach was above 3000. The fact that I was a 22 year old idiot had something to do with the turbo and head gasket issues I’m sure. The last three were within 12 months or so, and I gave up.

Vicente Esteve > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 21:27

I like the 500 Abarth more than the FieSTa. I have to mention I haven’t driven either, so a stint in them may change my mind completely.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 22:15

Not a prejudice but I like stance and can’t defend that

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 22:32

I prefer American RWD vehicles without airbags or abs equipped with naturally aspirated OHV engines, manual transmissions and an uneven torque curve

BLCKSTRM > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 22:38

I don’t know about least-defensible, but I don’t like any kind of forced induction.

I feel like the additional heat and pressure are unlikely to hold up well over time.

I go to track days and see lots of old E30s and E36 M3s, and I’m incredibly doubtful that in 20 years there will be a bunch of old F30 M3s/M4s found at racetracks.

TheJWT > AkursedX
09/13/2016 at 23:03

I’ve driven 3 generations of aircooled 911s and I can not for the life of me figure out the appeal

flyingmetalbird > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 23:05

I love front wheel drive. I daily a Miata but there’s just something I love about controlled understeer.

I also don’t really understand enormous overpowered luxo barge sedans. I love big comfy sedans like the LS and our old Legend, but I just don't get the appeal of an S65

TheJWT > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 23:06

I can’t think of a single Volkswagen or Audi made in the last 10 years that has appealed to me.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/13/2016 at 23:36

I hate the sound of Subaru boxers. I would rather listen to a geo with holes in the exhaust than any Subaru with the world’s best exhaust system.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > dogisbadob
09/14/2016 at 00:20

disagree about pushrods, but all hail the dogleg!

Kinja'd!!!

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > BLCKSTRM
09/14/2016 at 00:27

combined with manf. trying to lighten every component to get +.1mpg and hold together just as long as the warranty is in place.

BoulderZ > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
09/14/2016 at 02:43

Agreed. I absolutely hate Subarus, all of them, for so many, many reasons. This includes but is absolutely in no way limited to their awful, fart-tastic sound. That might be the least of their many crimes and transgressions. Their only redeeming feature is that their abysmal quality leads to an early, hideous death not one minute too soon.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > BoulderZ
09/14/2016 at 03:12

Worse yet is that so many people believe they’re so reliable. But they’re not even close. I’ve put less time and money in my two circa ‘00 E-classes in two years than I did in my sister-in-law’s same vintage outback in one year. The stupidru even had lower miles. The only good thing about that car was that I managed to get her $700 for it as a trade in needing yet another set of head gaskets, trans work, tires, and more. Oh and my E’s are still strong and happy.

Pickup_man > tythegeek
09/14/2016 at 09:52

I mostly agree, I’m fine with a 6.5' bed, but anything shorter and I start to wonder what’s the point? I’ll never buy a truck with a 5.5' bed.

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Rico
09/14/2016 at 10:27

I totally agree about the bar being higher. Not necessarily financially, but in terms of brain-quality and training, yes. The kind of mistakes I see people making on a daily basis astound me.

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
09/14/2016 at 10:28

GM’s addiction to chrome is rediculous. So many of their cars would look way better if they were simply de-chromified.

Rykilla303 > Invinciblejets
09/14/2016 at 10:58

*gasp*

*clutches pearls and runs away*

Rykilla303 > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/14/2016 at 11:00

NOS Parts. There’s nothing like getting something from a by-gone era in your hands. It gives me a connection to the past that i can’t describe. But the cost is hard to defend, and there are usually higher quality alternatives.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Rico
09/14/2016 at 13:57

How about bad drivers who drive their shit cars worse (too fast, taking turns dangerously, etc.) because they know the car is crap and just don’t give a crap what happens to it?

Rico > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/14/2016 at 15:10

Those people are on my kill list.

briannutter1 > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/14/2016 at 20:52

Exposed fasteners.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/15/2016 at 14:02

Thats funny, I am completely opposite. Turbos are cool and neat, but superchargers just do something for me that a turbo never can. Put really my biggest pet peeve is when they use plastic to imitate metal finishes. Like seriously, a thin piece of aluminum doesn’t way much and would 100% bring up the level of the interior. Also just do fabric covered dashes please. The plastic sucks. And Chrome trim around windows. You don’t have any thing else chrome on the car. The emblems may imitate chome, but fuck off with the window trim. It looks stupid and RUINS THE LINES OF MOST CARS

CaptDale - is secretly British > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
09/15/2016 at 14:02

THANKYOU!!!! FUCKING CHROME AROUND WINDOWS WITH NO OTHER CHOME!!